60 replies to this topic

[nbv386]

ok iv never heard that reference before But ya they where 3 vests and the games I play it's one shot doesn't matter what your whereling

[ga mercs]

ye the kevlar vest comment is our way of saying to our team mates to shoot the bullet proof dude in the face .....keep us updated on your build ,,, i bought a ris last week and am thinking of upgradeing

[nbv386]

Ya I will and I think the rule in my group is did it hurt yes- OUT OUT OUT no-I'm still in.

But I will it will be a few weeks I want to get the feel of my gun and when the warrenty runs out I will start updating this post

One more thing is it ok to use ics .20 to blow thru the break in period or will it damage my barrel ( their black and I can't see them so to me their no good.

[ga mercs]

all i shoot is 20gs because i shoot alot ,,,, i have used golden ball,airsoft elites, ics, and matrix ,,,,,,,,i have had no issues with any of these

[superfrog]

.3s have a tendency to make people call their hit. They hurt worse than .25s. Also to get 410 fps with .3s means you will have to be shooting about 480 fps w .2s.  Heavy bbs make a difference. Even changing .3s with your stock gun will cause people to call their hits.

[nbv386]

Ok that's good then should I put a sp130 spring or an m130 and I will shim and then is there a kind of bb I should avoid besides sport stores and .12 bbs?

Also I'm not going to do all of this as soon as I get it once the warrenty is up I will install the rhop and spring and shims I know with an m130 spring I will not need to shim but if I can I will or do you think I don't need to?

Also then when I get my gun I will shoot about 4000 bbs and clean the bucking and barrel(but I will only shoot about 1 mag every 10 min so I don't stress out the gun too much I just want to break it in and I will use .30 when I install the spring, rhop and (maybe) shims

Edited by nbv386, 13 May 2012 - 12:12 PM.

[superfrog]

Did I read this right? You don't even have the gun?  Let's try this, get the gun and shoot it for 45 days.  Not sure If you have ever had a kwa but these are not like most guns out there. The performance is like most guns that are upgraded.  Also, most places do jot allow guns with the fps you ate talking about.  And again FPS DOES NOT EQUAL RANGE.  And further it sounds to me if the group you are playing with have integrity issues.  Thus who hurt thing is stupid. If I am in your situation I want to keep my full auto so when people play like that, they get hit repeatedly until they say hit. Just because you have a high fps gun dies not mean they will say it hurts. Most high fps guns cause problems in the field.  
But again it sounds like your mind is made up but if you don't have cash flow you should leave the internal alone and simply install the rhop and leave it alone.  Also, wait until you have the gun and use it.  Post jack when you have the gun in hand and are shooting it and let us know then.

[nbv386]

superfrog, on 13 May 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

Did I read this right? You don't even have the gun?  Let's try this, get the gun and shoot it for 45 days.  Not sure If you have ever had a kwa but these are not like most guns out there. The performance is like most guns that are upgraded.  Also, most places do jot allow guns with the fps you ate talking about.  And again FPS DOES NOT EQUAL RANGE.  And further it sounds to me if the group you are playing with have integrity issues.  Thus who hurt thing is stupid. If I am in your situation I want to keep my full auto so when people play like that, they get hit repeatedly until they say hit. Just because you have a high fps gun dies not mean they will say it hurts. Most high fps guns cause problems in the field.  
But again it sounds like your mind is made up but if you don't have cash flow you should leave the internal alone and simply install the rhop and leave it alone.  Also, wait until you have the gun and use it.  Post jack when you have the gun in hand and are shooting it and let us know then.

ya I am going to keep it stock for 45 days but I will use .30 and rhop from what is sounds I with that I can get 250 feet of range also we don't have a fps limit but from what I hear it's not worth the trouble of a new spring unless your an experienced tech

So after this I will...

1. Get a lipoly that is within the limits that kwa set

2. Use ksc .30 bbs

3. I will instal I-rhop

4. Clean the barrel and bucking often (every 3000 bbs)

I know it's good stock but I thought the spring would make it better but from what you are saying its just not worth the trouble so I won't

But I will play with it and just have fun I guess I'm too worried about fps and trying to squeeze every little but  performance out of the gun but it wont last too long if I do that

I'm getting the gun in a week and a half and I just wanted some ideas but it seems that it's just not worth the trouble it'll bring in the end so what I listed will be all I need you think to improve performance yet keep reliability. Thanks

And one mor thing IT SUCKS TO KNOW YOU HIT SOMEONE BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OUT AND END UP HITTING YOU!!!!

Edited by nbv386, 13 May 2012 - 05:48 PM.

[superfrog]

That is frustrating I know. People who do as you are talking about do not last long at our games. If people can't have integrity or call their shots they are politely asked not to come back. Now that being said there are a lot of times when people swear they are hitting someone but they actually are not. Thus is true most of the time. I have had people get upsetting me a time or two because I hit them and they think they are hitting me nut their bbs are falling short, and they don't realize the range difference some guns have. If that happens I just look for them later and don't make the same mistake again. Thus us why I like to keep my guns able to use full auto for just these situations.  Put your fps to high and no full auto. get the rhop going then consider fps upgrade but I doubt you will need it. Don't worry about it until you see it in action.

[nbv386]

Ok ya I will try it and thanks for the advice I will take my time install the rhop and see how it works and then move on but he group I play with are people that are new at playing and don't know what the hit of a bb feels like once I hit somone 5 times and he truly didn't feel it and I was about 100 feet away some come with enough clothing to make paintball feel like airsoft on bare skin

But ya I will take my time enjoy my gun wait 45 days and install the rhop and see how it works but do I just post on this topic again when I install the rhop and if I have any questions I will go to the rhop topic to solve any problems or anwser any questions. Thanks

[nbv386]

I just had a new question

If I put an sp130 spring in the sr12 will I need to shim and if so it would be my first time so are there any guides you can recommend

Thanks

[aaps59]

No shouldnt have to shim your gears with a SP130

[nbv386]

Ok I won't I wanted about 400 fps with .30 bbs but if I don't need to shim that workes out a lot thanks

[ga mercs]

superfrog, on 13 May 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

That is frustrating I know. People who do as you are talking about do not last long at our games. If people can't have integrity or call their shots they are politely asked not to come back. Now that being said there are a lot of times when people swear they are hitting someone but they actually are not. Thus is true most of the time. I have had people get upsetting me a time or two because I hit them and they think they are hitting me nut their bbs are falling short, and they don't realize the range difference some guns have. If that happens I just look for them later and don't make the same mistake again. Thus us why I like to keep my guns able to use full auto for just these situations.  Put your fps to high and no full auto. get the rhop going then consider fps upgrade but I doubt you will need it. Don't worry about it until you see it in action.

when people at our course wear kevlar airsoft vest they get shot in the face ,,,,,,,,,just sayin

[niko_gpsy]

ga mercs, on 18 May 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

when people at our course wear kevlar airsoft vest they get shot in the face ,,,,,,,,,just sayin

Some of them even wear kevlar face masks........................lol

[nbv386]

Actually I think I'm going to go with an m130 spring are there any brands you reccomend?

[aaps59]

nbv386, on 19 May 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Actually I think I'm going to go with an m130 spring are there any brands you reccomend?

KWA M130 and Madbull.

http://store.kwausa....m130spring.aspx

http://www.airsoftgi...roducts_id=2459

[superfrog]

The Madbull is an sp130 not an m130.  I know, I know it says m130 but you have to read the sticker.  Read the small print, it clearly says SP130.  And if there is any question, I installed a modify sp110 in my sr7 and a madbull m110/sp110 and they shot identical fps.
Same thing happened with the modify sp120 and the madbull m120/sp120,  they shot identical fps.
Madbull 130 is quite different than a kwa 130.

Actually, a madbull sp120 would be about the same as a kwa m130.

Madbull, Modify, Guarder and others all shoot hot for their number.
If you want something similar to a kwa 130, use one of these mentioned above but as a sp120.

Actually here is the description from ASGI website
Madbull M130 Spring
Tokyo Marui, ICS, JG, SRC, Cyma, Echo1, VFC, G&P, AGM, King Arms, G&G, Upgrade, Internal, Outdoor, DMR
[X09D06][02459 / MB SP130]

Notice the last bracket of information.  SP130.

And btw, have you ever received your gun?

[gcw360]

nbv386, on 19 May 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Actually I think I'm going to go with an m130 spring are there any brands you reccomend?

KWA...

[nbv386]

No just ordered it today from evike can't wait but I am going to wait Untill the 45 day warranty is up and I'm going to use ksc .30 so I want about 400 fps with them should u use an kwa m130 or a madbull sp120